Iran vs. Epstein Empire w/David Yaghoubian & Resistance is Fertile

Adnan Husain: Salam, hello, peace to you all. This is Adnan Hussain with a quick message ahead of a bonus full audio of a recent live stream on my YouTube channel. So this is an extra for you on the podcast feed. We know these are momentous and historically significant times, the genocide in Gaza, war on Iran, you know, stifling blockade upon Cuba, the kidnapping of Jews. An elected head of state in Venezuela. Ice raids and fascism and anti-immigrant far-right politics metastasizing in Venezuela. The entire West, the world is in turmoil and bringing historical political analysis by scholarly experts and anti-imperialist intellectuals for our understanding and political education is vital right now if we are to help reshape the world for a better human future. That's my goal with this educational project. And if you can support it, I will be immensely grateful. You'll get early release of episodes, full audio of every YouTube live stream, some bonus readings and commentaries just for supporters. But most of all, the knowledge that you are helping keep all the episodes and live streams on YouTube, whether office hours or struggle sessions, or my solo video commentaries, free and available on YouTube for everyone else who benefits but can't afford right now to contribute financially during these difficult economic times. You can become a patron or a supporter in a I do this for the love of it, to use my knowledge and that of my guests for political education and understanding and advancing our cause and struggle for justice. But I do have a production team and platform fees. And if you can help me a little bit there, my production team deserves fair compensation for the hard work they do. So if you can help me, then you can become a patron on patreon.com slash Adnan Hussain or a supporting subscriber on Substack at adnanahussain.substack.com or make a one-time contribution via buymeacoffee.com slash Adnan Hussain. Peace and solidarity with you all. Salam, hello, peace to all and welcome to another special live stream focusing on the real issues at hand concurrent developments in the A war on Iran, or as we like to frame it, especially today on day two, we can definitely say that Iran hits back against the Epstein empire. We're going to talk about all of that and more with a very wonderful group called of panelists. So before I introduce them briefly and get straight into the discussion, I do want to remind everybody to like the stream so that people will find out about it. If you want, you could even share it on your social media and tell people. And perhaps you can also subscribe to the channel. We've been having a lot, and I don't always, a lot of live streams, especially in this moment, I don't always get a chance to give a huge amount of advance warnings. But if you're a subscriber, there's a better chance you'll find out about it. And of course, one of the biggest fears you have as a true tankie is, left me is fear of missing out on the really good stuff so don't miss out you don't have to you can also always watch this back but it's great to be here and in the discussion so also post your questions comments topics I'll be trying to peruse that you know, in the course of our conversation. And if I think there's something that might make a good topic for the panelists, I'll draw it out. So post them in the chat. Let's, let's do it. So I'm really excited for this because these are some great comrades and, and, And we wanna like see what sense we can make of what's been going on because as one of our panelists already remarked to me, there's just like so much coming in to deal with and process. And so that's what we're gonna try and do a little bit of together. So this is a collaboration with Resistance Is Fertile podcast. It's streaming there on X and also on Substack. and you know one of the co-hosts of resistance is fertile is the inimitable benji schoendorf radical anti-imperialist psychologist and co-host of resistance is fertile benji welcome brother it's great to see you uh thank you brother adnan i couldn't um

Benji Schoendorf: think of a better way to spend this sunday night of what looks very much like the final battle against the genocidal empire than in your beautiful company and that of brother david who is the person i credit with bringing iran to life in my heart and my soul when we had this conversation on on the channel and also the wonderful um indy from the indica blog who i think you were the first blogger who i i was flabbergasted by how openly you posted about the resistance, resistant texts at a time when quite a few of us were still a little bit, you know, afraid. So yeah, what a great, what a great day. I feel so grateful to be with you guys in this absolutely world historical moment.

Adnan Husain: Indeed. Well, a lot there. And of course, you've basically told us that we are lucky to have Indie blogger at Indie.ca co-host with you, Benji of Resistance is Fertile, whom I met for the first time on your podcast. impromptu emergency live stream very early on a Saturday morning.

Benji Schoendorf: It feels like a lifetime away, doesn't it?

Adnan Husain: Oh, it does. Indeed. It's great to see you again and to have met you recently. Welcome, comrade.

Indica: Yeah, thank you very much. My wife always tells me I should get out more and meet people, so I really appreciate these opportunities. Right, how you get to stay in and meet people. I mean, why not? It could be better. Yeah, it's the best of both worlds.

Adnan Husain: That's right. And, of course, my friend of, you know, wow. I shouldn't say how many decades, cause that just will make us all feel really old. But, uh, my friend, comrade, colleague, um, who I was lucky enough to go, uh, through his, you know, kind of encouragement and invitation to accompany him to Iran for the first time in December, uh, professor David Yagoubian from Cal state San Bernardino, friend of the show. And, um, appeared many episodes talking about Iran. Dave, it's great to see you, man.

David Yaghoubian: It's great to see all three of you. Like as Benji said, there's nowhere else I'd rather be right now. We'll see where it goes. But I emotionally today I've been from tears to to like, you know, hearty belly laughs. People have amazing sense of humor. And things are just extremely dire as well. I mean, we'll talk about the resistance side, which I'm very heartened and encouraged, but it's just it's been an insane roller coaster of the last essentially almost 48 hours. And so this is actually sort of a time to collect information. my and our thoughts, I think, because the monitoring, if you will, side of things is just nonstop. So great to have this time and great to see you all.

Adnan Husain: Yeah, well, I mean, maybe that's the place to start is like, what are our major impressions after the first two days? And it's been filled with news and developments, including, you know, the initial news and strikes. You know, we've come to learn after the end of the first day, very late, with real confirmation that, you There were some losses in people who were made martyrs, among them Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. And this itself also is worth remarking that I think this is the end he would have wanted for himself. Like he would not have complained about, you know, resisting to the end, working, you know, not hiding out, you know, trying to extend his, you know, life, but rather being in service to the very end for life. his nation, his people, and being martyred during Ramadan, leading his people, making a massive contribution, fulfilling his life mission, and really perhaps in death, serving to really be the emblem you know for the resistance so you know muslims believe that the martyrs are not dead but they live with us and live on and in some sense his legacy is so important and powerful and the consequences of his sacrifice you know might um actually mean that He is going to be with us, you know, because as Benji said, this feels like world historical time. So, you know, maybe that's a place to start is just how people are interpreting and understanding it. And then we can talk a little bit about the latest developments in Iran's hitting back against the Epstein empire because imperialists go for the shock and awe and they go for these assassinations, illegal assassinations. They want to disorient us. They have this Orientalist idea that without your Oriental despotic leader, the society will be destroyed. completely at a loss and confused and paralyzed and unable, you know, to act in concert in an organized and considered fashion. And we have seen, of course, exactly the opposite when it comes to Iran hitting back. And so we'll want to talk about that. Why don't we go around and just open it up? So, Indy, how are you feeling about Iran? the state of affairs and particularly, you know, the snooze that we've had to absorb in the first day.

Indica: Yeah. So, I mean, I guess it's more to remind people that it wasn't just Khamenei that was killed. There were people high within the military establishment and also his daughter and his granddaughter, like a beautiful baby girl. And I'm always reminded of that. Even when Abu Ubaidah was martyred, they killed his daughter. his young son also. And that's the scale of child killing empire we're facing. They're really trying to kill the future. And I think the martyr Ali Khamenei, he certainly knew what he was doing. He went to work that day knowing exactly what that work entailed. And I mean, as the Notorious B.I.G. said, I think he was ready to die. And Growing up as a young man, I always heard about rappers and musicians, which is my culture growing up in America, but I heard about them after they die. And I think everyone will hear about Kameni now. They'll hear a lot of lies about him. They're still spreading this idea that he's some evil tyrant. I invite anyone to read Kameni. His website is largely in English. He has a lot of... excellent philosophical work and some really sweet and charming tweets. He was a great man. We were very lucky to live at the same time as him. And as the Quran says, don't think of the people who are martyred in God's cause as dead. They are alive. You're just not aware of it. And I feel that very much. When Nasrallah was martyred, I felt very sad. I was pretty depressed and mean for weeks. I feel differently with Khamenei. I don't know why. But, yeah, I feel differently. I feel more hopeful somehow.

Adnan Husain: Yeah, more hopeful. I mean, I agree with you. That really hit me, Sayyid Hassan Nasrullah's. Like, that was hard for me to get over. I thought, oh, what's going to happen? You know, I had invested so much in this charismatic leadership of his. And the fact that he was so frightening to the Zionists, it was just like here was somebody who had battled with them and whom they feared. So that loss. But Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has not been in the forefront of our... Except maybe more recently, he's actually been out giving a lot of speeches that... you know, people have been interested in because of the impending war, they've been paying attention, but he's made a lot of recent public statements, very defiantly saying, you know, we're not, why should we be afraid of these aircraft carriers? You know, a greater weapon is something that might sink it. So like, you know, and so that I'm still waiting and hoping to see what he has, you know, in a way sort of promised. I mean, I hope to see it, but I think you're right. Like, because it's, it somehow feels like, less devastating to the cause and more, in fact, actually inspiring to the resistance, right, is the effect that it will have. Sayyid Hassan, it seemed like it did demoralize in some ways Hezbollah as a movement at that moment that they were in. But this seems, when we see that, you know, there are people, I saw videos of people in Nigeria saying, you know, showing their solidarity and grief, but not in a sad way, but defiant way. And we're seeing that, of course, in Lebanon with hundreds of thousands of people coming into the streets. So that does feel a little different. So I'm with you, you know, on that. Anybody else?

Benji Schoendorf: Yes. If I may go now, because I want David to have the last word on this part of our conversation. There is somebody who's being disrespectful in the chat. Do you know how to get rid of them? Or just maybe tell you, don't speak that way of someone who's been martyred, please. It's not the kind of space that I feel we want to have together here. Yeah, you know, Indeed, you put words to something I had been feeling and kind of felt a little bit guilty about. I was also very shaken by the death of Nasrallah and the murder of Nasrallah. And if you recall, you know, I think they dropped 80... is it 80 tons of explosive on this fellow, which is like the explosive power of a small nuclear device, just to get this one person in the southern suburbs of Beirut. And in a way, Khamenei had said he would not hide. He said, my body is frail. I'm an old man. I am not that useful to the cause anymore, being alive. And when I heard about his death, I didn't feel the same sense. And, you know, folks will know I'm autistic. And sometimes I feel well, maybe I don't feel grief in the right place. Or maybe sometimes I'm too in the abstract ideas and I can't connect to the real feeling. But my immediate feeling was He chose, he really chose it, you know, and there was this US journalist who published this scoop, you know, he said, scoop, the CIA located Khamenei and passed his coordinates onto the Mossad. I mean, you could have found him on Google Maps, you know, and I responded, yeah, there's another scoop, you know. The CIA located the Kremlin in Moscow and passed on the coordinates to the Ukrainians. And this man had decided that by... being martyred at this particular time, or taking the risk to be martyred, which you must have known. I mean, we know this is the decapitation empire, right? They decapitate you, and then they try to eat you in the jerky form. I think that's the case. And there was, in the book of Gabriel Rockhill, they even said that When they went after Che Guevara, which the whole of the empire was after, it was the CIA who wanted Che Guevara. They actually wanted his head brought back to DC, right? And in the end, the guy didn't want to do it. So they just got a finger or two. But this is literally a flesh-eating empire of demons. And it's very good that they're showing it to us because it's giving us the Marxists, the socialists, the people like me, don't have religious faith and I don't judge it I just can't have it you know I can't make myself believe stuff I don't believe but I respect so fully the people who have this belief that it gives us a way to unite across those divides which I believe are artificial because everybody has the right to live their life their existence their spirituality in whatever way feels right to them And we are seeing them for the demons they are. And going at this particular moment, is the perfect, and also the, I think the general, the chief of the general staff of the army went, perfect way to show that this isn't a tyranny. This isn't a one man show. This isn't a fragile regime. This is a popular democracy. I'm not saying I would organize the same way. I have no idea. I'm not in charge of organizing a democracy, but clearly it's supported by the vast majority of the people, whatever it's been doing. And I've been learning so much about Khamenei. It's been since June, actually. But you see all his tweets, and he was such a nice man. He tweets about how he loves Les Miserables, Victor Hugo. I saw today, you know, I was thinking, I'm reminded of the Demon Milikov speech. Milikovsky speaking in front of Congress and saying, those trans people and LGBTQ people who support Palestine, they're like chicken supporting KFC or something. And today, you know, there was, I saw several tweets that said in 1981, two years after the Islamic revolution, there was a fatwa, a religious edict that said, it was legal to transition surgically from one gender to the next. That was Khomeini, right? The predecessor to Khamenei. And Khamenei himself reaffirmed it. And it turns out many people from the region actually will go to Iran to transition. So, you know, dear Alji, BTQ brothers and sisters you've actually chosen the right side when you've supported the free people of the world the only stories about you know pushing people of buildings are absolutely false they have nothing to do with people's sexual sexuality and another thing I discovered about I saw these videos the first time I saw it today of Ali Khamenei so he was uh wounded in the war against Iraq, which was an imperialist conspiracy. The Germans, the dead Germans, actually gave, as Germans like to do, poison gas to gas the Iranian population. And all the time, that medieval regime, as they want us to believe, Burt Lazarin- chose to never respond in kind at the cost of hundreds of thousands, possibly million more dead than they would have had right and this man. when it was his turn to be chosen, when he was chosen as the spiritual leader of the country, they actually filmed the, it was a secret meeting, but they filmed it, right? And he refused, he stood up and he said, no, I don't really know that much. I don't have the religious authority. I'm not... prepared, I'm not worthy, I'm not a leader, I won't be able to lead. And it was Rass Vanjani who was going to be the president later, or maybe, I don't know if he was at the time, I'm sorry if my history is not perfect, who said, that's enough talk, let's vote. And you see, and he says, everybody who's for, stand up. Everybody stands up, except for Khamenei. And you see the poor man You know, like, this is not some crazed, power-hungry tyrant, not in a million years. Then you see his house. And his house, this guy was literally the Pepe Mujica of Iran, right? His meeting room where he met the people he worked with. He had the cheapest table probably you could find in the Tehran Bazaar. plastic chairs piled up on top of one another, a carpet that has nothing to it, This was a simple man dedicated to study, dedicated to philosophy, dedicated to his spirituality, dedicated to leading his people against his own will and better judgment. When you see that example of a man, you know that what he does is deliberate. And I choose to believe that he chose to be a martyr at this particular time, because now he's leading the people through the people whereas you know nobody can say they're all under the yoke of this guy no it's not there anymore and the people is rising and they are reaping the genocidal empire an orifice which i hope is the gates of hell opening right under their feet

Adnan Husain: We'll get to those gates of hell. Yes. I just wanted to put on the screen.

Benji Schoendorf: Can you move your logo because we can't see your beautiful face anymore.

Adnan Husain: Oh, well, I'll be back in a moment. I guess, yeah, I could move it to the other side, couldn't I? that would be with uh captain thomas sankara yeah here we go there we go uh but i put it uh you know him with thomas uh sankara you know i mean uh a lot of people think that um This kind of support of the Palestinians is just something that's related to this Middle East Islam. They had a vision. Islamic Republic of Iran was committed to anti-imperialism around the globe. And here's, you know, visual testimony that here's the supreme leader before he became the supreme leader, you know, sitting with Thomas Sankara, right? So two martyrs, right, of Western Crusader Empire. Dave.

David Yaghoubian: You know, I just agree so wholeheartedly with everything that's been said so far. And some of it I couldn't have said myself because I would cry because I tend to be a crier. So good job with that, Indy, hanging through that. But, you know, just in the context of what you just said, Adnan, the long struggle against imperialism, I feel like the death of and the assassination, let's just, you straight with that, but the assassination of Ayatollah Khamenei is for me very different than the assassination of Nasrallah in the sense that I think everyone has a mission and everyone has their time, if you will, and the completion and the longevity of Ayatollah Khamenei's work and his mission. I won't say that I exactly saw this coming, but it was very clear over the last few weeks as he was giving speeches to community groups and to students and was just out there, I kind of felt that he was ready for this. And so if people can understand this, you need to really understand the culture of Shia Islam, but I'm more stunned by his achievement. than I am saddened by his loss. I hate to draw from this pop cultural analogy, but it's sort of like Obi-Wan Kenobi and the robe falling on the ground. His power just grows exponentially. Of course, this is also because of his age. So we can't discount that. It's just Nasrallah. had many more years to participate in the resistance. Ayatollah Khamenei basically, and I heard Adnan earlier when you were with Naveed and Nina, you mentioned this, the video that's been going around, I've sent it to people, but Ayatollah Khamenei basically taking his own advice that he gave to the young boy who wanted to become a martyr. He said, study hard, which Ayatollah Khamenei did, grow up, get tall, serve Islam, which Ayatollah Khamenei did deeply. And then when you're 80 to 90, you can become a martyr. And that is exactly what he did. So I'm sort of in awe of his achievement, especially in light of, and this might be a segue to what we are going to be talking about, but in light of how he has enabled and empowered and released the Iranian nation to do whatever is necessary at this time to defeat the Zio Pito American empire and to optimally not only secure security for Iranians, but the entire region and potentially for all of Eurasia. And if you want, you know, if you will, the pivot area. And so this this is it's truly an epic battle to draw from some of the terminology that And I'm just, again, I don't know that many and many of my friends and family don't understand this but I'm, I'm incredibly heartened by the, the leadership and the example that Ayatollah Khamenei has has set and and the, the lifelong effort, uh, and, and action in, in resistance, uh, that, that his, his biography illustrates so brilliantly. So, so it's, uh, it, it, it, even specifically in this context, I, I've been talking to others and my wife about, about Masarala and how I still haven't really wrapped my head around that or dealt with that, but, but it's, this is very different for, for Ayatollah Khamenei. So, you know, clearly this makes me emotional to talk about. Um, but, uh, My heart is filled with his memory and the power. It's sort of like a Shia energy pill that he has released globally.

Benji Schoendorf: Can I just say, David, I'm a clinical psychologist, so it's okay to cry. It's okay to feel whatever you're feeling.

David Yaghoubian: I grew up on Rosie Greer. My mom was big on Rosie Greer. It's all right to cry. I have to say I've gotten a lot of mileage out of it.

Adnan Husain: over the years and that's always it's always the mother's fault right yeah I mean if we think about like what some of the consequences and implications going forward you know we've mentioned some of them but you know as uh oh to John Trudell's posted and I've seen reports about this and even some video al-mayadeen English reports has Balazs launched missiles towards occupied Palestine and we know that If Hezbollah has entered into the active resistance, active participation in this battle, it is partly in response to commitments and promises they've made to avenge Israel. you know, the marja, you know, a spiritual leader, a guide, kind of the marja for resistance, really, you would say, you know, there are other marjas, but like he's the marja, that is the person who gives authoritative religious guidance to those, you know, in Shi'i Islam, to those in the resistance, he's really, you know, And we might say also, you know, Commander Fidel Castro warned, you know, in 2010, that if the US and Israel were to attack the Islamic Republic of Iran, it would have consequences, he predicted, of nuclearizing the conflict. And this is one thing that may be a miscalculation on the part of Epstein empire is thinking, oh, we'll get rid of their leader and that will kind of throw them into confusion and allow us through shock and awe to have the psychological consequences have to put our boots on the ground. We'll just, they'll collapse, you know, like we'll be able to win by doing this. Uh, you know, that in fact, actually, it could open the way because he is the figure whose authoritative religious juridical opinion has been that weapons of mass destruction, specifically nuclear weapons, are an abomination and not allowable in Islamic law. But as I like to tell people, Islamic law is flexible. And do you think in this time that his successor will not take potentially a very different view of that position? So there are potentially lots of implications and consequences of this. But that helps us transition into like how Iran has been striking back, you know, even before we think about what they might do. And also the fact that if Hezbollah is joining now, you know, it wasn't something that Iran called for or demanded earlier on, right? They said, we're okay on our own at this stage of the battle. But And this shows that they are not proxies of Iran. This is a decision that would be taken by, you know, Hezbollah and Lebanon saying this matters to us. They've crossed a red line. This horrible empire has to be confronted right now. That's their decision, you know, to do so. So anyway, I wanted to open up like what the response has been to the initial attacks and What do you notice and think about? What are the key points?

Indica: Should I do a quick run of play just to say in the past 24 hours, the places, the countries they've hit? I'm putting countries in quotes for the reason. So occupied Palestine, Israel, United States, all there. So the IRGC has said, you know, we're not attacking you, UAE, but you guys, that's American soil that you put on your land as an American country. like they've soiled your land. So the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Jordan, Iraq. And within Iraq, there's resistance now, I think, from the blood brigades. Bahrain, Oman. Oman, I don't know, because Oman is a bit of a friendly. Syria, as in occupied Syria now. Cyprus, there's a UK base there and America bases out of there. France, France's Camp de la Paix, the ironically named Camp de la Paix in UAE has been hit. And an Italian NATO camp in... I forget, Ali al-Salem base. So I think this ties back to something Nasrallah said, which I'll quote from an old speech of his. He said, we are now intent on removing colonialism from this region, doing away with colonial means of information and culture and making people understand Islam as it should be understood. He said, we do not believe in multiple Islamic republics. We do believe, however, in a single Islamic world governed by a central government because we consider all borders throughout the Muslim world as fake and colonialist and therefore doomed to disappear. Therefore, in order for this project to be realized, priority should be given to removing Israel from the scene because it was established for the express purpose of dividing and partitioning the Muslim world. This is from a longer speech where he's basically reassuring people that Islam is not... Like, I mean, ISIS didn't exist at the time, but Islam isn't oppressive like that. If this like this, I mean, the invocation of Muslim here doesn't bother me at all. But as you can see, like they've had a plan for decolonizing this region for a long time. And Nasrallah said, we don't expect that we'll walk into Jerusalem soon, but we do expect that we'll walk into Jerusalem, you know, at some point. And they have been planning for this. And then when America tries to decapitate iran has evolved to to not be decapitated they they proceed in ranks and when one rank falls another rank falls in um by by persecuting and by oppressing iran for so many generations they have ensured that this revolution this decolonial revolution revolution is a regenerating process and it will continue to regenerate and and they have planned for this day whereas i think The United States has not planned, and not planning is planning to fail, as they say.

Benji Schoendorf: Interesting. Yeah. So I'm not going to speak too much about the military stuff, I guess.

Adnan Husain: That's something Dave loves, so we'll let him.

Benji Schoendorf: Yeah, great. So I'll let him do that. I also love it, but I know I'm not an expert. I'll only say that I've known since 2017, and I came across Andrei Marchanov's first book, Losing Military Supremacy, I've actually known that the military goods of the empire was cooked. And since then, things have just gone even more in the direction of the empire losing military supremacy. To be very short about it is if you have a military industrial complex that is meant to maximize shareholder value, it can't maximize battlefield effectiveness. So you end up with boutique weapons that are just made to be super expensive and they need those rare earths that Comrade Xi has decided to not sell anymore to bureaucratic chicanery. And they have demilitarized themselves in Ukraine and by holocausting Gaza with more bombs than, was it 80 Roshimas or something? And they simply don't have stuff left and plus what they have doesn't work except for maximizing shareholder value so they are done for but i want to look at the psychological side of things and on the psychological side of things it is my conviction it's the reason also why i speak that There is a psychological war going on. It's going on 24-7. And our minds are the targets. You know, as the great late Michael Parenti said, they don't care anything about you. They don't care if you live or if you die. They care nothing for you. The only thing they care about you is what you think. This they care desperately about. And all they do, especially because they are lost in Western idealism, is about what we think, is about narratives. So we need to think of ourselves when we speak publicly at any kind of level to anyone in the world that we are actually, because we've been drafted by empire and maybe by life, maybe by whatever, soldiers who maybe haven't chosen to be there on a battlefield. psychological battlefield front so we have a duty to be responsible with what we say uh i it was um oh i mean car cabral said you know claim tell no lies and claim no easy victories right so make sure you don't tell lies but at the same time no the sources you use. In a conflict like this, on which you know which side you are, and hopefully you're watching this, you're on the side of humanity, and not on the side of the death-worshipping, cannibalistic, pedocriminal demons, then you only trust sources who are on the side of life. So you don't publish anything that you've read through, I don't know what, you know, Axios, New York Times, except to make fun of them, right? But you wait until the people who are on the side of life and really fighting for it on the material battlefield put out the message. That is absolutely important. And the other thing is what we are seeing today is things are absolutely not going the way they imagine because the problem they have is they drink their own Kool-Aid. And the most toxic part of their Kool-Aid, which has been brewing and fermenting for the past 500 years, is the racist supremacist part of it, which has actually convinced them to their bone that, I'm almost ashamed to say it as a white person. Brown people are not human enough to be just as smart as them if they have the same information in front of them. Not only can they be just as smart as them, they can be smarter because they are not blinded by arrogance and hubris. So they work their little backsides off. Iran is one of the countries with the highest rates of engineers in high tech, including, I think, female engineers at a level we don't even imagine. And so they have it. They have the technology. And then when they tell you we have the weapons, believe them. And now they have Chinese satellite that cannot be jammed by the empire with the precision. Have you seen those? And they're commercial satellite images from the Chinese. So on the material front, And as a Marxist, I know it's the final battle, by the way, between dialectical materialism, I'm not saying godless materialism, right, and idealism, people who think just making stuff up in their minds, they can make it appear in the world, which is Trump, you know, to a T. And the fight is going really well. So our duty is to pump ourselves up, not with lies, not by claiming easy victory. That was not an easy victory, right? That was many, many decades in the making. They spoke of strategic patience, not for nothing. They didn't respond so many times. They let that we, the free people of the world, not because I don't want to claim any glory, but we need to see we're on the same side. We let our leaders be killed without responding. We let them walk all over us. We let them genocide a large part of us in the name of strategic patients, right? And they basically open themselves the door of their own hell. So long as I don't have information that contradicts this, and maybe David can give us the real military goodies, this is what's going on now. And brothers and sisters, this is pretty good news. I'm 62 years old. I've been waiting for a day like this since I think I learned about the Nazi Holocaust of the Jews at the tender age of eight years old, and it broke my eternal soul. Did you see, Indy? I stopped it just before I said it.

Indica: Yeah, we've been trying not to swear because all the Western swear words are basically Epstein-y, sexual-related.

Adnan Husain: Let's move on. Extraordinary discipline there, self-control. But for you, Benji, just a quick thing before we get to those goodies. Since you were talking about as a therapist, somebody who understands therapy and psychological war, I saw a very funny tweet. And I think these are the kinds of things perhaps David was saying amid the horror of the devastating violence upon civilians. And we see the schoolgirls, a hundred of them in one strike, and in fact, almost all of the casualties.

Benji Schoendorf: I actually, I choose to believe this is a deliberate sacrifice to Epstein. This is what I choose to believe. It's the opening salvo, they go and kill over 100 primary school girls.

Indica: Yeah, I saw a joke, which is true, which is that Khamenei is the spiritual leader of Iran, and Jeffrey Epstein is the spiritual leader of the empire.

Adnan Husain: It's no joke. It's no joke, my friend. The supreme leader, Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. No, that's amazing. I mean, so that is more than just an irony, as you're pointing out. I mean, this is absolutely fitting. And in absorbing that, that's like a horror. But then there are also some funny things that people do post, which is that you thought, you know, you needed for years, you thought you needed therapy. then you realized all you needed to see was Tel Aviv burn, as opposed to like all these people who are like celebrating and are happy and are uplifted, not because they take pleasure in human suffering, but because they want to see the Epstein empire destroyed. And it's come to this, that this is all that we have left, like all of the other efforts have not worked it is now up to unfortunately Iran making the sacrifice to take on the Epstein Empire and give it a blow that it will not recover from may I just say as a clinical therapist you know that is evidence-based treatment right seeing those images of those

Benji Schoendorf: satanic demons getting their comeuppance at last is soul cleansing you know part of what keeps people in mental suffering is having to live in a pedo criminal flesh-eating cannibalistic capitalist system this is what makes most people live in a state of constant mental suffering. Why is it an epidemic? Why do we have all these so-called mental diseases we didn't have before? Because capitalism is eating away at the very soul of what it is to be human.

Adnan Husain: Yes. So Dave, how do you think they're doing in striking back against the Epstein empire?

David Yaghoubian: I will get to that, but I just want to say I really appreciate how Benji just framed this, the explanation of the racist supremacist component to the ongoing machinations of American empire and its sort of Zionist component. And the reason I'm going to begin with that is I think that could help to explain why Benji was ahead of me back in August when I was arguing that based on soft and hard power dynamics which were identifiable and traceable, that there would not be another attack on Iran. And what I was I was admonished, hey, don't underestimate their stupidity, their racism. And so let me just say then in that context, one of the reasons why my conversation with Benji a couple of weeks ago, our conversations recently had not I was leaning towards the United States isn't going to do it because we all know. the realities of American weaponry, as you all have described, Iran's defensive capabilities having been demonstrated, all of these things, regional dynamics, everything, the Strait of Hormuz, the economy, all of these things, right? And so, and nevertheless, they went ahead. I still, all the way up until the very end, I texted a colleague, I won't out him, but just a few nights ago saying, Iran just dodged the biggest bullet that the United States will ever have. And I was, of course, abjectly wrong. And so now- With that said, look at what the result has been, and we can talk about that. But Israel and the pedo-American empire are being resolutely spanked by the Islamic Republic of Iran. And that doesn't mean that Iranians aren't dying and that there isn't destruction going on in Iran. But this is... how I thought it was going to go and why therefore I argued that they're not going to be that stupid. Furthermore, let me just add, I'm shocked in terms of the dynamics. If you remember the three floating points of dynamic interpretation, that is US soft and hard power, Iranian soft and hard power, Zionist soft and hard power. Think about the context in which the final blowout war between Iran and the United States has finally happened. the, the Epstein files, the Huckabee interview, um, you know, the ongoing genocide in Palestine. Um, this is why I just kept in terms of the, my analysis of those dynamics did not think that it would be possible. And then furthermore, Iran having had a full six plus months to recover after the 12 day war, which every day of that six months, you know, I was aware that another day had gone by and that, that, you know, uh, Some of even the recently martyred leadership of Iranian military, they work every day of those interim months. And so this is, I'll just say then to kind of end that segment of my incorrect analysis, it's sort of like the basis of my analysis has been revealed. This is why I was arguing that the US isn't going to be stupid enough to do it. And therefore, back to Benji's excellent insights, If one can't understand it, which I can't intellectually understand, we must go back then to their psyche, their psychosis, and their racist supremacist ideology to understand how they could think that this would be successful, how they could think that this would pull it off. And I'll bring it full circle to Khamenei. How you could think that killing Ayatollah Khamenei at age 86 in this context, coming from the barrel of the pedo-Zionist Epstein gun, would not just fully... enrage and fuel the resistance globally. So I'm just stunned at their stupidity. And I'd say I'm more just, what, pleased to see that the expectations that I and many other observers had of Iranian military strength and Iranian national cohesion and national identity have been borne out. And we can see it happening right now on the streets of Tehran and other cities as not only are people not going into sweaty bunkers, as I have a friend actually in Israel who is in one right now, but they're taking to the streets to demonstrate their support for the revolution, their mourning over the loss of Ayatollah Khamenei, and their anger over the ongoing violence and murder of the And it's increasingly, as we can tell, very difficult times for the Zion imperialist empire and its cheerleaders.

Benji Schoendorf: May I make just a small point, Brother David? I think... to fully get how high they are on the supremacy school aid, I'm afraid you need to have been born a white person amongst white people and decided to become a serious race and class traitor. Because the problem with the dehumanizers is they dehumanize themselves as they dehumanize the others. But the folks they dehumanize, never doubted for a minute that they are human and they don't even doubt that the dehumanizers are human so it's very hard for the dehumanized not because they all feel dehumanized and colonized in the mind but because they are so fully human to realize that that supremacy turns you into an actual demon, right? And this is kind of, it's been a weakness historically because, you know, you sign treaties with people thinking they're equal humans that you can sign treaties with, but they're just doing it so that they can, you can turn away from the treaty ceremony and they can knife you in the back.

Indica: And, David, I'd like to add. So you said your military analysis was off, but that is actually the conventional U.S. military analysis that war with Iran would be ruinous. And if you don't mind, this is a report called U.S. Bases in the Middle East Overcoming the Tyranny of Geography from 2024 by Spuds McKinsey. So it says our current basing structure inherited from years of haphazard decision making is and driven by divergent operational political principles, has yielded installations that are not, and this is understating it, not optimally situated for the most likely threats of today and the future in the region. And what this guy talks about is actually what Iran is hitting right now. He says, the United States considers a naval base at Manama, Bahrain to be the main operating base for CENTCOM. It is the headquarters of the US Fifth Fleet, the naval component. There are air bases in Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, and Jordan. These bases are typically dual-use facilities and host nation aircraft operating out of there. And he says, basically, while we can move our troops out, these guys can't move out of their country, which becomes obviously a problem for those people. And this is the money quote. He says, United States will not be able to maintain these bases in a full-throated conflict because they will be rendered unusable by sustained Iranian attack. It is a simple tyranny of geography. Our current bases are shared with host countries. These nations do not have the option of relocating in the event of war with Iran. So this is the internal U.S. military reports. And you can see from the leaks, not just from the toilets, but from the generals leading up to this war, that there was significant trepidation about launching this attack on Iran. But it's important to remember that the White Empire, which is what we call it, rather to avoid all the commas and apostrophes, The white empire has played its last Trump card, which is a joker. So Trump is sort of like the id of American idiocy, which is just that we can do whatever we want, wherever we want. And his whole life and career is just based on piling one outrage on top of another to cover up the last one. So he is an accelerationist by nature. And he's played this card, but now everybody has to deal with it.

David Yaghoubian: So if I might just add right here, you guys, I have been stunned that because I've been waiting, cringing for this Iran-U.S. war certainly ever since the Axis of Evil speech, right? So it's what, a good 24 years. And I am stunned that this is the context in which Iran finally gets to destroy the American military presence in the region. Even let's go back six years to January of 2020 after the assassination of General Qasem Soleimani when Ayatollah Khamenei And the Iranian government, the Majlis declared that the effort was going to be to push the United States out of the region and has been continuing on that path. I could never have imagined where American, especially soft and global power diplomatic powers. there isn't any anymore could never have even begun to dream because Hollywood couldn't make the shit up and no one would have believed it they would have said yeah just that's like some weird eyes wide shut porno version dude I'm not interested so this is the context these pedo Zio murderers like thieves killing Ayatollah Khamenei at the peak of his power. I'm just saying you couldn't script it any better. It would be impossible to script a novel of this any better and Hollywood would have rejected it. So if this is the context in which the United States is finally going to bring it on with the entire globe watching and the news cycle has been so quick that we forget the insanity and the outrages of every day in between the 12 day war. And again, I'll just like the, just the Huckabee thing alone. If just, just that the Qatar getting, you know, bombed by the Zionists with, and the U S saying, Oh, that was crazy. And then the Qatari negotiators, their Mercedes, it's steering column snapping in the middle of the desert, right? If I'm just saying, you can't make up any of this shit. I could go with like a hundred more examples. And this is the context in which Donald Trump, meanwhile, while who else was he threatening that I, for, It was another country he was going to invade just today. So if that's the context in which finally we're going to have the big epic war between the U.S. and Iran, I'm taking it. It couldn't be any more perfect and glorious. I wouldn't say that Ayatollah Khamenei was playing whatever – 64d chess and just scripted this whole thing but talk about suckering the united states in at a point when not even i mean except for the mega crowd but american die hard like you know whatever mega patriots they themselves can see who started this shit who pushed this shit who begged and asked for it who's doing it at the beck and call of the zionists it's just all out there so i This is the context. I'm a happy man at this point in that context. If it was going to happen, then you couldn't create in your wildest dreams a better scenario of context for this.

Adnan Husain: outstanding yes fire yeah i mean this turn it like it is brother yeah you managed to like capture you know in words why i've been feeling a little buoyed you know like i when this was on the cusp of happening. I was living with dread constantly. And the first thing I said, you know, at that morning live stream with Benji and Indy was like, I don't feel how I expected to feel because I feel a little bit of a release from this dread, from this constant. I can't imagine you, Dave, 24 years. One more.

David Yaghoubian: Just really quickly in 15 seconds. The other thing is, think about Khamenei and what he has done. Did he actually script this so that he's gone now and the government can now go ahead and assemble the device? Because that is, by the way, it's my birthday today, 59 years old, and this is the greatest. birthday gift that I could ever have contemplated receiving at this ripe old age. So I'm just saying, did Kamini like really leave instructions even? Because if they're going to do this, if they're going to kill me, the Marja, in my home with my grandkids, then you have every right to go on, my dear community, to do whatever you deem necessary. I do believe, and I've been arguing, that they've had the parts just sitting on a shelf ready for A, B, C, D. they could be easily melded to even not even that recent of a model of Iranian ballistic missile. And so if that's where it's going, it is literally checkmate for American empire and Zionism in the region. And Iran doesn't even have to use the nukes. They'll just say, we're just going to continue to use our, you know, non-nuclear capabilities until you are gone. Bye-bye. And until people don't spit on other people in Palestine because we have a one state and people can be free to worship as they want to or not worship and to live as human beings together.

Benji Schoendorf: Can I just, yeah.

David Yaghoubian: I'm out. Drop the vape there.

Benji Schoendorf: Drop the vape. It's not bye-bye anymore, by the way. It's do bye-bye anymore, right? So I'll let you know. Just to say, you know, speaking of 24D chess, And Brother Justin James in the comments says, the past two and a half years, I've brought leftists to become, to imbibe some Islamic spirituality or what have you. But, you know, when I heard you said this, that reminds me of this phrase I hear a lot, you know, which is God is the best planner. And there is some... Yeah. And when we talk about being on the side of life, I am on the side of life. And my only justification for it is because I'm alive, you know, like I'm alive. So I'm on team life. Call me crazy. And because I'm on Team Life, I'm going to say it very clear to all of you now, and I want you to hear it and to be careful on the psychological war front about this. Because I am on the side of life, I know that life will survive these things. So I have no fear for our nuclear energy, like Brother Bob Marley would say. Because I don't believe it will happen. They want the Armageddon, the Holocaust, but their plans, I mean, like, you know, their cunning plans are all crashing around their ears. And I don't actually think this will take us to a nuclear holocaust. It doesn't matter. There's nothing I could do that could cause it anyway. But if we start thinking, oh, my God, we're on the brink of a nuclear holocaust, that will freeze us up. That will stop us from thinking, from imagining, from dreaming, from fighting, from speaking. And we are actually conceiving the possibility that death will win. No, death is not winning. This is why the free people of the world are rising up. through provocation by the forces of death. That's their problem. And therefore, if you're on the side of life, you have to know that life is going to win, whether it's by religious belief or just my, you know, very simple down to earth spirituality. I'm alive, so I'm on the side of life.

Indica: But I think Iran has to be conscious of the nuclear threat and not just in the form of tactical nukes, but also in terms of what they did to Gaza through conventional munitions. But I do think, I mean, the one verse in the Quran that does keep coming back to me is Allah says, they are planning a scheme and so am I. So bear with those who deny the truth and let them be for a little while. And I think that concept of strategic patience was there in Khamenei. He certainly knew the Quran. I'm sure he was Hafiz. And they were able to think on a longer term. What the founder of Hamas, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, said was that by 2027, Israel would be gone. He called that a Quranic prediction based on generations. He said the first generation was the Nakba, then the Intifada, then I think now we're the fourth generation in, which is the active generation. active military wing of Al-Qassam and Hamas. And they have a plan and then they have faith. And then one thing I think, this is something, so Nasrallah said, he was talking about Hamini, he said, personally speaking and based on my personal experience with Hamini, who repeated on more than one occasion that we all firmly believe in this divine promise. Gaza will triumph, Palestine will triumph, Palestine will prevail. He himself repeated the same words to us in the July war when there was no victory looming on the horizon and to our fellow brothers in Gaza. And One thing that I find interesting about how many philosophically is I find it challenging. So just for reference, I'm a Buddhist, but he talks about how faith has to be backed by action. He said faith that isn't lived through your arms and your legs and your brain and your body isn't faith. And it's essentially of no use. So Iran has prepared for this in a very deep way. Number one, by educating their population. There's this idea that the mullahs are backwards and theocratic, and they're actually just a moral leadership, and they're incredibly scientific. And they have figured out that all they have for airplanes is sort of F-4s and essentially US stuff and a few Russian things. But they have asymmetrically built a missile force. which is distributed across Iran. And especially that you can see that how many I think was killed, I would think in the morning, but the orders went out immediately. The orders had already been given. The plan has already been planned. And this is a plan that is decades in the making. And for all the show of U.S. military equipment going by air, you can't actually resupply that much by air. And they don't have that much by air. And this is all known, I would say, within the U.S. military and certainly within the Iranian military. And they're in a weak position, which Trump, a weak man, has just pushed the button on. But Iran has to be careful. And I think they have been careful. There's a Quranic injunction not to attack first. And even if people try to negotiate, you have to negotiate with them, even if they seem obviously perfidious. But they have set up the moral plane that anyone with a brain can see that Iran are the good guys. Yeah. Yeah. So they have, and it's been painful, right? Because from the first day, from October 8th, I was like, when will Hezbollah cross the border? Like, when will Iran join? But then again, that's not us first to say. Like, we're sitting safe at home. And they have to protect their own people. And they have to deal with something very dangerous, which is a dying empire backed into a corner. So they have to be incredibly careful. And as you can see, they are being methodical. And, you know, God be with them.

Adnan Husain: Well, you know, I mean, well, there's so many things would be great to react to and so many thoughts come to mind. But one thing I wanted to, you know, address or point out in this that goes with this atmosphere and feeling of confidence based in reality. I think you're absolutely right, Indy, like, you know, Nobody can afford to be casual, and they are not. They have planned this. They have been very serious. Nobody can be casual, but we shouldn't lose heart in this moment. And I think one thing that really gave me incredible encouragement today was recognizing and learning. I'm trying to find the actual tweet from Trita Parsi, but elsewhere I saw it as well. That Iran seems to have been, you know, that the Trump administration reportedly seems to have reached out to Iran about talking about a true ceasefire, some kind of... When he had every opportunity, they gave him every opportunity agreeing to further restrictions than the JCPOA so that he could have, you know, his victory, his Trump moment to say, I'm the best dealmaker ever. No president.

Benji Schoendorf: They gave him more than the JCPOA. That's what I'm saying.

Adnan Husain: They gave him more than the JCPOA so he could declare a victory and end this and do a reasonable thing. But of course, he can't take the easy road because whatever it is, he's in the thrall of this aggressive... The Epstein empire, you know, but they gave him plenty of opportunities. He didn't take it. Now he's coming, realizing, recognizing this is not going to be the cakewalk he imagined. And they're reaching out, you know, feelers for a truce. Iran has rejected any discussion of a truce yet. They will not end this. They recognize perhaps in some ways it was a strategic error. The people who are in charge now are the people who survived the June 12-day war generation. They are not playing around, and they did not want to stop. It was Israel that asked for the truce. Iran agreed. Some people feel at that time they should never have agreed to that, but they should have continued to victory. This operation has, I don't know if it's an official name, but it's been characterized as Khatma Tufan, completing the flood. Yes. They are not going to stop until they have inflicted enough damage that either victory has been achieved fully or at least deterrence truly has been established by giving a global lesson. That everyone can see of how weak the U.S. empire is ultimately and how strong a people who are united, who are coming out, just as David was saying, and I could play, you know, video of that. Millions of people in Inkhilab Square, Revolution Square, even in Tajrish. okay there are people out okay tajrish which i have never i don't know anything about it except what dave and others i've met tell me that's the upper crust kind of elite secular westernized you know kind of bourgeois sector of tehran you know where you know you'll get the women wearing the fancy gucci you know kind of fendi whatever clothes with their little dogs and you know that that's That's Tajrish and they are out in the streets. Right. So a people united like that are not going to be defeated by this by this empire. So that gave me so much encouragement that Iran felt it's in a position where it is not going to take a quick and easy, you know, true ceasefire that will just leave the same conditions. The security situation is necessary. They've set their target. They're going to remove US bases and essentially the US occupation. If you remove the U.S. occupation, all you have – and this is worth talking about. We've seen the videos of the Bahrainis celebrating strikes in Manama on the Fifth Fleet Base. If you remove the U.S. chokehold that is propping up these fake dynasties, these little oligarchies, if you remove them – There's a whole potential for revolution, especially in Bahrain, a revolutionary potential. Or, you know, is the United Emirates going to be a South Asian republic? You know, I mean, all the workers there.

Indica: We built it. I guess we should keep it.

Adnan Husain: Exactly. I mean, they built it. It's their sweat, blood, tears that have built that place. So, you know, maybe they deserve it. According to John Locke, they've mixed their labor. It belongs to them. They should have ownership. But at any rate, that was one kind of thought I had.

Benji Schoendorf: is that strategically there's a lot of reason to feel confident because iran is feeling confident if they're feeling confident why shouldn't we you know exactly and um yeah this point about strategy i think is essential i i want to bracket a little thing when i say uh let's not us i fear that this will lead to a nuclear holocaust i'm not saying that the way to not lead to it wouldn't be and i let the iranian play planners do their work because they've done it brilliantly so far wouldn't be to say hey by the way we just have a device so don't even think about it whatever what i'm saying is it's more like a faith or an article of faith or wager or whatever let's not operate on the idea that we are on the brink of I don't believe that's what we're on the brink of. We're on the brink of liberation. And I do believe this is actually an operation that is called, it has now been called, and it will be forever called, the closing of the flood or the end, I don't know what the actual technical word is, because this reveals the absolute strategic brilliance of Martyr Yaya Sinoir, right? And if you look at what Yaya Sinoir did, this is a people's war. This is a national liberation war. This is a guerrilla war. And what is very specific about guerrilla wars is they are not actually military wars. They are psychological wars. They are wars for the soul of a nation. They are wars for class and national consciousness. This is what people's wars are. And in a strange way, the empire of idealism thinks they can create their reality by bullshit narratives and controlling social media and before that was the press and the television or what have you but they still think wars are won with guns and steel whereas the people resisting the guerrilla the nations the class knows that the war is won by changing the consciousness of the people by uniting the consciousness of the people. That doesn't mean you go on the battlefield with flowers that you put in front of the genocidal killers. You also organize militarily. But as you were talking, Indeed, it suddenly came to me. The fact that those missiles are distributed all over. And did you see their launchers? They are like basic delivery trucks. So you can't actually spot them. And go ahead, you know, spend all your 30 million apiece. dollars missiles on every single delivery truck that you see on the roads of Iran and see where that gets you. So you have literally the people's missiles in the sense that they're distributed everywhere. There are mobile launchers that are just people's vehicles. They are underground, like every single national liberation people has been using since Vietnam and also in Korea, which technology the North Koreans, our brothers, our comrades, were, you know, through internationalist solidarity shared with the folks in Iran, in Lebanon, of course, and also in Gaza. And It's always done at the psychological level. So this is why they do what they do. And Khamenei goes and the people is vibrating. You see those videos. Have you seen the videos of the chanting Iranian people? They chant in a way, and I don't understand Farsi. I'm just Duolingo level 15 in Arabic. And you get so inspired. You know, someone on Twitter said, shoot this straight into my veins. And that's exactly what makes you feel. And the people aren't fighting. The Iranian people may not even, you know, have to take a gun to win this battle because now you have the people's missiles. And on the other side, you have a bunch of whiny babies. Did you hear Chancellor Merz? Oh, by the way, did you see Milekowski? flew to Berlin. And you know, I think he flew to Berlin because he wanted to make sure that Hitler's old bunker under the Reichstag was fit for purpose. Because that's where they have decided to end it all. And this is where, please, go and we'll come and get you. And Mertz was saying, Iran, did you see Mertz? Iran must stop these unjust attacks, unjust attacks. Every single attack of Iran has targeted something that they have the absolute intelligence of. You know, these Americans, they thought they were really smart. They evacuated the base, and then they moved to the 24, 30 stairs high rise next door, and they were filming the missiles coming. And so they go, oh, shit, and you see this Shahid.

Adnan Husain: Yes.

Benji Schoendorf: Right into the room where I bet until I have solid evidence it's not the case, was some really high value command and control US military target. And of course, they have their little offices all over those fake countries of the Gulf who are just, you know, satrapies put together by empire to manage their interests. And the Iranians know every single place to the five meters. That's it, guys. And this is why also the Bahraini population can cheer because they know exactly that this Shahid is not going to fall on the school's girl and massacre more primary school girls than any single bombing in the history of bombing. They know it's going to go to the bad guys. And that is like poetic justice at a level I never knew I would experience in my life.

David Yaghoubian: Indeed. I just wanted to add one thing.

Adnan Husain: I don't know how to make it loud. Here we go.

David Yaghoubian: They're chanting Haydar between Hawaiian, one of the names for Imam Ali, and one of the names for militant Imam. Haydar.

Indica: Where is that? Is that Bahrain?

Adnan Husain: That's in Kilab Square. Okay. Revolution Square in Tehran.

Indica: Because they started rounding up people in Bahrain, but I'm sure people in Bahrain are feeling that nervous.

Adnan Husain: Oh, I've had some of those too. But Dave, you were about to say.

David Yaghoubian: Yeah, just if this is what we're witnessing is the seal of the floods, if you will, the heating up of the wax for the seal as this began. I'll just say one thing that really struck me. So I immediately I saw a telegram note came in. It's on. Right. And that was another very long, let's say, long hour for me waiting for as news came in that it was on. Where are the contrails? Where is the Iranian response? Like, I thought it was going to be in five minutes. Like what? You know, hair trigger. Let's go. The thing that. That just filled my heart and which I still I'm sort of stunned by it. And so this is the only point that I'll really weigh on on the military geek stuff here. But the fact that with the first Iranian ballistic missile strike, they got hits in in Haifa and there was one other there were two. I was stunned because looking at both Iran's and Israel's rebuilding after the 12-day war and with the reconfiguration of American forces, the Navy off the coast of Palestine in the Mediterranean, I thought that it was going to be maybe a day or two of saturation missile strikes until they would start to permeate the arrow system, the iron dome isn't as relevant for the, for the, the, the, you know, long distance ballistics, but, but the fad system, right. Having scored hits right out of the gate. I was immediately shocked. Like, like, Whoa, I have to say, and I don't know if it was trolling, but somebody immediately tweeted like, yes, Iran has taken control of Israel's air defenses and they're wide open, which I, you know, obviously that didn't happen, but, but, The fact that this could be tweeted and would be funny to people because – oh, yeah, exactly. I'm just able to read now, finally, Benji's mug. But so the – I'll just cut to the chase. The fact that it seems as though – Israel's air defenses, especially between THAAD and the aero system, have been unable to stop even the initial Iranian barrages. And then subsequently, just exponentially, as everyone has seen around the world, meeting or interdicting less and less and less to the point where if you saw that video that just came out a few hours ago, you've got like 10 interceptors, which depending on the type of interceptor, a PAC-3 interceptor, uh uh round for a patriot system is about three to four million dollars okay so there's 40 million dollars for maybe what between 100 maybe a 100 or 200 000 ballistic missile this is completely unsustainable for even another few days trump is talking about A month? No, no, no. This will be over in a few days at this rate. So I won't discount the impact of and they're probably using standoff munitions. There's no evidence of actual American or Israeli jets over Iranian territory, but they can do a lot of damage with standoff munitions. And so that will eventually add up in a trip. the iranian ability to launch this number of volleys but i myself knowing what iran's capacities were the size of the nation which i'll remind people it's bigger than ukraine ukraine has been being attacked for better or worse for the last four years by russia which isn't just firing washing machines and shovels and they still have air defenses and they still launch drones and they still put up a fight and iran is larger geographically than So my money is on the IRGC and Iranian salvos far outmatching the remaining number of THAAD missiles and Patriot missiles, which many of the viewers here are probably aware, in some cases, the United States only can produce several hundred per year. When two to three are fired average for every Iranian incoming missile, just do the math. Just do the math.

Adnan Husain: Well, here's a whole bunch more than that. I mean, let's take a look.

Speaker 5: I think this morning... Oh, my God! Oh, my God!

David Yaghoubian: Oh, my God!

Speaker 5: Yo! Oh, my God!

David Yaghoubian: Yo!

Benji Schoendorf: Oh, my God! Make someone say, yo. Keep it going, Dick Fry at the end. Oh, my God.

David Yaghoubian: Notice the accents there, folks. Notice those accents.

Benji Schoendorf: Those accents were promised to them 3,000 years ago.

Adnan Husain: The report from Middle East Observer was like shock, express shock. As Iran missile strikes. So David was talking about

Indica: Sorry, David was talking about how he was somewhat surprised that Israel was hit immediately. It's important to understand Israel's air defenses actually start in Doha from that 1.1 billion radar system. It's sort of like a it fans out. It's like a it's a web. So you got Bahrain, Qatar, to a lesser extent, UAE. And their air defense really starts in Jordan, in Saudi Arabia, and now, unfortunately, in Syria and Iraq. What's important to understand, what makes this different from the 12-day war is because the United States attacked directly first, the rules of engagement have changed such that Iran can hit those U.S. sites. So before, they would have to go through those U.S. sites, get intercepted there, and then also get through the Israeli air defenses. But now the rules of engagement have changed such that they can take out the eyes, essentially the radar, of Israel. So now it's actually much easier to get because Israel was being defended from the satrapies much more than from Israel itself.

Adnan Husain: Jordan downed so many in previous True Promise 1, 2, and 3. They were downing and all of that.

Indica: And because that mythology was sustained that Israel is a real country. and was just fighting Iran by itself, which I mean, you can see Russia still playing along with in Ukraine, despite it getting supplied from other countries. But now that mythology is shattered because Trump has been dragged in directly. So now they're able to engage directly. And so what I say, I talk about this term like white empire all the time because it's important to understand it's a longer historical process than just the Americans. For Sri Lanka, we were colonized, I mean, now through the IMF by the Americans, by the British, by the Dutch, by the Portuguese. And for us on the bottom, like, what's the difference, right? They fly like different combinations of red, white, and blue generally.

Adnan Husain: You're going to force me to start talking about the Crusades, my friend. Don't do it.

Indica: But if you read about the Crusades, this has happened before and down to the starvation sieges. We'll get you down for Wednesdays.

Benji Schoendorf: On Wednesday, you're going to speak.

David Yaghoubian: The slaughter of civilians, man. It's all thematic there. absolutely there was a question red kitty is a great yeah i can just address that really quickly just basically standoff munitions um are are uh uh munitions basically like the kinetic energy that you can drop uh from afar and that so specifically what they're doing is they're dropping glide bombs or missiles from above say iraqi territory at 40 or 45 000 feet um At which case they already have the speed and the momentum with the glide abilities and or if they're powered to reach a target, even in Tehran or anywhere in Iran. So during the 12 day war, there is no evidence whatsoever that the United States or Israel ever actually overflew, except for the Midnight Hammer fake scripted. attack at the end, which was enabled and planned and accepted by Iranian leadership for better or worse at the time. And so likewise, there's no evidence that there are actually Israeli or American aircraft over Iranian territory, but they can do huge damage by flying right up to the border, if you will. They can't even really get that close to the border, but say within 30, 40 miles of the border, at very high altitude very high speed and dropping this thing that then with momentum continues on to the target so i'm just saying that the the destructive power of standoff munitions cannot be underestimated at the same time these standoff munitions are hugely expensive the american versions of them russia has just developed during the uh the smo during the the war in ukraine a kit that they can actually attach to their dumb bombs, basically 2,000 pound bombs that are based, you know, World War II era. They have ones from 1950s in stock that they can just attach this kit to. It's got like a, you know, a hose clamp on it. And they, once it drops, then the wings come out and it's essentially a long distance standoff munition. So anyway, that's what the United States has been attacking Iran with, that and cruise missiles.

Indica: So militarily, we're actually witnessing a paradigm shift from the fighter bomb model. The old fighter bomb model is you fly a fighter like that and drop a bomb like that. So when you talk about standoff missions, you basically put the fighter up, but it's kind of like a fixed platform. And then you shoot like that. United States is not geared around that, right? It's geared around... As much as you can say industrialized, it's built around dropping expensive bombs on poor people that don't have air defenses. So Iran has enough air defenses. Plus, these guys are too scared to lose their precious equipment that they won't risk looting. Because for them, losing a fighter jet itself is worse than losing land. That itself is a big psychological blow to them. But they're not geared for that type of war. What they're geared for is like the incineration of Gaza, which is you fly an expensive plane and drop a 2,000-pound bomb on a refugee camp. But that's not what they're facing here. And Iran has made a strategic decision long ago that we cannot compete with them on the fighter bomb model. So they don't really have an indigenous fighter jet and they haven't really imported significant amounts of MiGs or anything. But they have decided that, hey, we have this incredibly rocky mountainous terrain. We can build mobile missiles and shoot it. And I think the proof of this military concept has been in Yemen, where a force without really an air force or a navy was able to establish air and sea supremacy by having mobile missiles. So it is a paradigm shift in warfare from the fighter model to the missile model. And America has missed that technological jump almost entirely.

Benji Schoendorf: And I want to go back to the concept of people's war because Russian weapons are actually the weapons of a people's army. They are the weapons of the Red Army. And there is this joke going on in military circles, which I've been reading more military stuff since 2017 than I ever thought I would. I managed to skive off military service in France as a teenager. And basically the thing that said, and Ukraine is the place where it was said, because the Ukrainians, you know, before being colonized by empire and, uh, kitted with all that, uh, expensive boutique stuff meant to maximize shareholder value, were trained in the art of using people's weapons. And they basically, the Ukrainians are saying, well, the problem with your weapons is they don't work very well. And when they don't work anymore, You have to call in somebody in Quantico, and it takes two weeks before they come. A Russian weapon, you know what you do? You take a sledgehammer, you hit it twice, and it works again. And this is the key, you know, like this radar that... indica was talking about right it covered what 5 000 kilometers around it was the most sophisticated radar more than 1.1 billion on the budget it's probably more expensive than this and it meant the squatters at seven minutes warning and iran took it out with a $30,000 flying lawnmower, right? Which, by the way, Iran gave the technology of to Russia at the beginning of the provoked by empire, legitimate Russian defense of the culturally Russian population of eastern Ukraine. And this we need to remember because it's really the people against the Epstein class. It's really the people. But these people, they hate humanity so much that they even abuse their own children, right? Like we know Andrew, Prince Andrew was probably abused by Mountbatten. They sold, you've seen the Epstein files, they sold their children to... to Epstein, like ruling class people. These are people who have just taken leave of humanity. And on the other side, you have the people. And the people who live in the real world, they want stuff that works. They don't want a car that's super expensive that you can talk to your friends about but can't get out of the garage without needing two hours of repairs every day, which is exactly what the US Army is. And it was already like this in Vietnam, you know, these M16s. As soon as you went in a sandy environment, they stopped working. Your AK-47, a people's weapon, was designed in, what, 45, I believe, and it's still going, and it's still one of the most effective people's weapons there ever was.

Indica: Yeah, and there's a reason it's on so many liberation movements' flags. Yeah.

David Yaghoubian: I would just say, just to just add on to great, great points, both Indy and Benji there, the attrition rate of American hardware that has been put into service is also very high because of the dynamics of, especially what Benji just explained about these boutique weapons. And so all those, you know, those graphics that came out, how many, you know, F-22s are there, even right there, I follow Will Shriver, it might have been Benji turning me on to I don't know if you saw Will. He was like, hey, you know, they're going to send F-22s out, but they sent 12 out. But I bet you that within like a day, it's down to 11. And he tweeted it. And before they even arrived, one had already done what he said it was going to do. It blew a like fuel line or something, had to turn back. So there were only 11. So right out of the gate, his point had already been demonstrated. And then the Chinese satellite photos showed, Hey, there's the 11 F 22 sitting on the tarmac and it's not 12. So, so with every day that this goes on, it's another reason why Trump, you know, started it on whatever late Friday, early Saturday morning, because markets are going to open tomorrow and we're going to have this thing, you know, one and done. And, that's not happening actually and just the attrition rate of the stuff that hasn't been shot at or shot down but that just sucks and is sort of built like this way by design so that we can all continue to fund it um it's it's just it's this is all for me very very I can't even really believe we're here already but here we are so yeah

Benji Schoendorf: Did you see the pictures of Trump at the Mar-a-Lago situation room? I'm not a body language expert, but these guys are defeated. Didn't you see today's picture taken where you see Trump screaming his head off at Exet, who was probably hungover from the day after the night before? This is... this is the moment, this is it. Like they are realizing they literally beat something they could not chew and it's going to choke them. And what you just put, Adnan, is exactly this, you know, racing to complete the mission before munitions run over. Munitions run over, you're the fucking... The most powerful empire in the history of the world. The arsenal of democracy.

David Yaghoubian: Yeah. Yeah.

Benji Schoendorf: We've never seen anything so powerful. We will hit them. It would be a shame if something happened to these great people.

Indica: I mean, I think in a lot of ways what we're witnessing is a going out of business sale of the military industrial complex. They're like, we got these jams, which are like the dumb bombs. Let's drop them on some refugee camps. We have artillery, which we're not really making anymore. Let's go drop it on Ukraine. And then now let's use like the good stuff on Iran. It's a it's it's a fire sale. It's a fire sale of of depreciating firepower. Like the United States is running the depreciation table. And if you read the US military reports, it's interesting because they're quite honest about this. They're like, our stuff doesn't work. It costs a billion dollars. We need to change something. Every report I read says we need to reform this. They don't reform. The same people have failed upwards since they were attacking Iran, I don't know, God knows how many years ago. In America, people talk about, oh, China purged this guy and purged that guy. Yeah, maybe you should purge your military occasionally. And in a way, like when you kill the ranks of Iran's military, you are also replenishing those ranks, whereas the US military ranks is only people who failed upwards, only people who said yes to every stupid idea ever given. And so you end up here with the logical conclusion of like a bit, you know, a cameo star in Home Alone 2 directing the military to attack a serious civilization.

Adnan Husain: Yeah. I mean, you know, but this is to a point that actually I'm interested in here about this cost analysis. Like, you know, yes, it's incredibly inefficient. That's kind of the point. You know, it is a point basically, you know, a distribution. It's welfare for, you know, military industrial workers. You know, investors, you know, that elite Epstein class again, you know, like, I mean, but these are people who are involved in, you know, feeding at the trough of U.S. lavish U.S. military spending. And that's why sometimes I think the economic analysis, you know, is really important. a little bit besides the point in the sense that it can't afford it. But if, you know, if they keep deficit spending, they don't care. They're just taking the money away and handing it to their friends. You know, it only, what it requires is at a certain point, the creditors, and I think they've slowed in terms of buying treasuries. Now, like the people, you know, in the world, the Gulf is maybe not buying as many. They were always a reliable company. But I think with this war, there might be a little slowdown in their purchase of U.S. treasuries right now, especially since their oil income is about to plummet or is plummeting right now as we speak. But if China decides... that it is not going to bail out the u.s financially by purchasing treasuries then you could have that economic argument but i think like they've already they're already doing it they have drawn down more than ever you know but the point is is that they don't you know this ruling class doesn't care how much it costs because that's just another you know opportunity to you know uh have another big government contract for some inefficient provider and so on. And I think somebody, you know, had a really interesting point, you know, that, you know, it isn't a completely new point, but it sort of goes together very nicely with, you know, the new way of accumulation under capitalism, basically, which is that, you know, is that this is kind of a rationalized way of handling things now where you get, you know uh financialization you know uh there's no place for them to really you know produce value but what they do is create these wars where you spend all this money for the weapons to destroy a place and then get the contracts to rebuild and basically require the place you've invaded to take out all of these loans for the reconstruction. And then so all of the infrastructure now has been privatized But better than just it being privatized is that the process of its privatization has also generated these, you know, kind of excess profits and income for the war makers. Right. So the war and the reconstruction are part of an imperialist design of accumulation that produces wealth. subordination by destroying your society and even when it's rebuilt now it's owned by others right that's the real destruction of sovereignty that is at stake and that's why that's what this is really about is Iran just is resisting being put under the you know kind of you know just by defending its sovereignty it's preventing itself from being put through this process if it's successful in defeating this kind of process of i would call it you know no longer primitive accumulation but kind of rationalized barbaric accumulation, that if it is capable of resisting this, escaping that process and defeating this attempt to subject it to that accumulative process, that is a massive victory of world historical proportions for the entire global South.

Benji Schoendorf: Could I make a point about this? Oh, sorry. Yeah, I'd like to make a point about this. So, you know, this is very close to the beautiful, brilliant, and I believe Marxism progressing analysis of... Comrade Ali Khadri, who has basically looked at the logic of capital. And it's not just exploiting workers anymore and shortchanging them on the value of their labor. It's really turning everything that is alive into a commodity, i.e. into dead stuff. And so producing death and death and death. shortening lifespans genocide whether structural or active destroying nature destroying social nature that is that very that very fine equilibrium between populations and their natural environment and their cultures and their spirituality that he has evolved over millennia destroying all this is a source of value and this is the way capitalism works so primitive accumulation is always ongoing and it's always violent. It's not something that happened once in Britain, in England, when they enclosed the Commons. It's done on an ongoing basis by violently forcing people in reducing what they want is to reduce the cost of social reproduction rights. So if you kill people, if they die because of illness, It costs less to maintain them in health, to educate them, to feed them, and all the rest of it. So they make profit out of this. This is the logic of capital. And this is why, by the way, if you haven't understood yet, countries like China, like Russia, like Iran, are not imperialist. Even if they invaded other countries for stupid reasons, they still would not be imperialist because they do not extract value by this ongoing violence, which has been the modus operandi of white empires for the past 500 years. But to work and we've we have gone somewhere from the imperialism of lenin it's now holding the world this imperialist system which is a world system through financial capitalism which takes the form of the dollar domination of the world economy and the minute the world economy is not denominated in dollar anymore, the whole thing crumbles. And if you look at the actual structure of the world financial system, and it's an inner dialectical contradiction of the system itself, it has actually been reduced simply because the US empire is so violent that it's sanctioned everybody out of its own financial sphere. So people have had to create their own Alternative systems in China and Russia and Iran have now a system that will replace the dollar system. The Saudis are selling all their oil in RMBs, right, in Chinese currency now. So they cannot hold the financial... domination of the world anymore to the dollar domination and this is just like sand seeping to their hands and it's just over and this is why there is a historic change to chance to do something and this is why the strategic patience was important and by the way they always make the mistake themselves like it's always an enforced error because there was a chance even until last week that the pro imperialist pro-capitalist wing of the Russian oligarchy, if you like, of the Russian class compromise, which wanted to do a separate peace with the US and reintegrate their houses in Monte Carlo and all the rest of it. would have dropped all the rest of the bricks and the world resistance in the way that the Indians tried to do this week, right? Modi, like fascists are stupid, right? They always make the wrong move at the worst possible time. This is what Modi did last week. And they blew it. They blew it. And do you know how you know they blew it? You know they blew it because Putin... took the time to have himself thinned for five long minutes, taking the biggest bunch of flower you ever saw in your life to honor the memory of Said Ali Khamenei. And in that instant, the empire itself closed the only escape hatch it had, and that's put Russia firmly on the side of Iran and China that I know many comrades and I've had comrades even that they're still comrades, but it's been tough, you know, because they wanted China to just go come and stop everything. China is very active in this thing. They were already active. I mentioned it in the 12 days war. They have this incredible ship that is so advanced electronically that the US can see it if it's just over the horizon. They have nothing to see it, right? And it was in the Gulf in June. It helped a little bit then. We know now for sure that China did help the Yemenis with targeting. And now they've moved everything to the Baidu system that empire can't do anything about and the targeting is that precise because of this you know the iranians are masters uh engineer and they've already got the most precise uh missiles you could have but you still need the targeting and now the chinese are providing it to them and this is how you win against an empire like this it's a kind of a sun tzu move because They go against the weaker partner, but they can't even beat the weakest partner. They're going to get a bloody nose from the weaker partner and the other. They're not even peers. They're superior in every dimension, economic, military, and moral. Of course, I just, you know, helping the weak guy. And it's so moral as well. And they will make sure that the crazy mafia boss is not going to blow up the planet. So, you know, take heart, brothers and sisters, and please take the good news to everybody around you and do something about it. Don't just think it's going to happen. We need to build that consciousness that it's over and we need something new.

Indica: I want to comment on something Adnan said, if you don't mind, because it got me thinking. But what Iran is doing is kind of what they're really doing is resisting being eaten by capital. And when you read Marx, he talks about how capitalists are basically interchangeable. They're sort of placeholders for capital. And if you got rid of Trump, which I think U.S. liberals think is going to solve everything. As Césaire said, like colonization cries out for its Hitler. So some other Hitler will come to take this thing into fascism. And so when Benji and I talk, we actually talk about capital as a form of AI, because in Sri Lanka, we were colonized by corporations first. And these corporations are algorithmically endowed to just consume resources and labor and then spit out profit and waste heat. which is, I mean, in biological terms, you could describe that as a life form closer to cancer than anything else. And in computer science, there's this one study where they talk about they asked an algorithm to move forward. So it came up with the idea to stack blocks on top of each other and fall, to crash, and then that would move it forward. So algorithmically, that worked. And you can see that happening with the U.S. military complex. They figured out, wait, if we just go into wars and lose, we make more money. And so that's what it's just building up these stacks of bombs and then failing over and over again. But that has a logical conclusion, which is sort of resource exhaustion.

David Yaghoubian: I would just add, this is brilliant, I'm learning so much from you guys, but just fascinatingly how what's going on in the Gulf and Iran in many ways relates directly back to the petrodollar system, petrodollar recycling, which involves both the investment in American debt, but also the continual purchase of American arms. And my favorite totem of the empire, the Patriot system, which most of us are aware never worked. The claims during the first Gulf War that it hit 99% of the incoming missiles. In fact, Ted Postal came out with a report six months later in 1991. They didn't hit a single incoming missile. I have argued that for the last 30 years that the Patriot system is simply a totem. It's cardboard. It doesn't work. It was never intended to work. It works to make money. It works for what it's designed for. You wouldn't be attacked because if anybody ever attacked it, they would incur the wrath of the arsenal of democracy and the greatest superpower on earth. And therefore, so it was sold for billions of dollars to underwrite other Raytheon projects that maybe worked or maybe didn't like the F-35. Um, But so the desperate need for American empire, and if you want to maintain the Wolfowitz Doctrine with this much debt, to continue the petrodollar system and petrodollar recycling, which between Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Libya, has been in the process of diminishing and dying. This also, in many ways, the dynamics in the Gulf are all about the United States attempting to assert what would be its lifeblood and to maintain it, which is the petrodollar system reliant on the purchase of our debt and the purchase of our weapons. So all of this is what's at stake for the empire. And I just say again, I think Soleimani and Ayatollah Khamenei understood this very well.

Adnan Husain: Well, people, we've been, I feel like, like all night. I'm just so pleased to, you know, have your company and fellowship during this. And I hope, you know, you're as buoyed by these conversations and renewed for continuing to fight the Cy war, the information war and, to get involved in our own communities, to fight fascism domestically and against this crusading imperialist war abroad. And the connections between the two become ever, ever more clear and the stakes more certain about how enormously important This resistance of Iran is to the fate of the world, our world and our future. And so I really appreciate the opportunity to have this confab and have this encouragement, this sense of community. And, you know, with a little bit of lightheartedness, give ourselves light hearts and hope. So, you know, before we leave, I do want to just remind everybody, you know, we have been doing a fundraiser for the Samir Project. We didn't start at the beginning with the announcement and see how much we could raise. That's usually just a Friday office hours tradition we've developed, but we should never forget Palestine. We must free Palestine. Let's do our part. I understand that today, you know, access was cut off again, you know, by the fascist Zionist regime to prevent much needed food, medicine to come in. So if you can make a donation to the Samir Project, Palestinian mutual aid organization working in Gaza, it'll go a long way. So, you know, I'll put that in the description of this episode, but please do remember to do that. As we go around concluding, you know, maybe you can tell people where to contact you, how to follow. Dave, you don't have a whole lot of social media presence, but how should people kind of follow your work? Or what would you ask people? You can even plug better sources of knowledge and information. I know a lot of people are relying on people they trust on Twitter, X, et cetera. But where else might people go to keep abreast of events? What are you... You said you're like constantly dealing with all the information. Yeah. Well, you watching and reading.

David Yaghoubian: I'll just say I'm a big fan of the Adnan Hussain show as well as resistance is fertile. And that's where I can sometimes be found. Humor me and my, my what? And where you may, you may maybe be proud. Thank you. I will say that one of the reasons I probably still have a job is because I never got on social media. So I oftentimes think that based on things that are in my mind that I'm then not able to tweet. So really, I've got a pretty long list of stuff if you do a search for my name in X because of all the Press TV stuff that's been published. But I'll just say I'm always, I remain a huge ardent fan of the gray zone. And so I just, as one source that I think is absolutely essential, the cradle has been kicking ass as well. Everybody's got their favorites, but I regularly read what they have to say because I find it very valuable. But again, and I just want to say love to you brothers. Thank you so much for this conversation as really, I have genuinely learned a lot and it's also just been very, very heartening. So.

Indica: Great. Indy. Yeah, thank you very much. It's been very nice to talk to people that aren't my cat. I really appreciate the opportunity. In terms of sources, what I've been reading, honestly, is the Quran because it feels like it's talking about today. I'm also like I've been using Telegram for Resistance News Network in general, but for Iran in particular, Fortress Resistance, F-O-T-R-O-S and an extra E at the end of resistance has been a good source. for me and I would also say just like follow your own heart and your instincts right if you can't see that you know the people killing babies in their day job and then raping them in their vacations are bad I think you know and that the people and like the gentle old man like tweeting poetry and like fighting colonialism for his whole life is good, then, I mean, I don't know, you need to look into your own heart a bit. I think now things are becoming apparent and we have to reconstruct our worldview as the old world falls apart.

Benji Schoendorf: Yeah. Is it okay if I finish a thought that I kind of struck over? Okay. So I started at one point saying how I believe Mathieu Yaya-Sinwa was one of the great strategic genius, maybe the greatest strategic genius of people's war ever. And the competition is stiff, you know, with the Vietnamese, the Chinese, many Africans also. And because... I think it's the century of the Global South that's opening. It's going to be the century of humiliation for the West and not a minute too soon. I hope it's 500 years. I hope that Western so-called civilization that never was one actually disappears. It was an aberration. But what I mean is it's Sun Tzu, right? It's not Clausewitz anymore. It's Sun Tzu. Sinois went for 20 years to learn about the enemy. He knew them better than they knew themselves. Then he learned about people's war. Then he learned about how you build people's army, your own weapons, your own resilience, you stay in the people. And you know, when he launched a flood, maybe it was pushed, like there is some credible rumors, I don't know how to say, it's evidence, but that they were planning an operation into Gaza, right? And when their very good intelligence heard about it, they hastened a little bit their operation, right? And he called it the flood. He probably thought of the name 20 years before. I'm going to believe that. I'm going to make up that story. And he called it the flood because he knew exactly what it was going to do. It was going to wash away every single illusion of that empire. And you know when the... see moves away then you see who's got who's clothed and who's in there not even underwear right and this is exactly what we've seen and what we've seen is we are actually governed by demons i mean you know it used to be the purview of lunatics to talk about shape-shifting lasers that drank the blood of babies Maybe they're not lizards, but everything else turns out turned out to be true. And they've been trying like crazy like maniacs to go back to the world of before the flood. But you can never go back to the world of before the flood and this is why calling it the end of the flood. is also world historic i believe and we need to understand this you know i'm fond of saying in a flood there is not one drop of water that is bigger than the other it takes all the drops of water to make a flood and you are a drop of water your voice your memes your jokes by the way this is I think shit posters of the world unite and take over this is your opportunity to shine you know like they are in their not even underwear the emperor is naked and it's disgusting so you can make fun of them as much as you can because they are so narcissistic that you really wound them you don't wound the pure-hearted if you make fun of them you know they're humble you as as how many were was so that's what's going on you're a drop make sure that drop goes you know like when you're on top of a mountain you go either that way or that way you go towards the way of life and this is why we're here today and thank you life for having made this little job that i am flow in the same direction as you three beautiful souls it is one of the gifts of my life. And you're a young man, David, by the way, because I don't even remember how young I am, at 62 at least. And it's just beautiful. And there are many, many of us drops out there and we're gathering, we're recognizing that we're made of the same stuff because we're all human.

David Yaghoubian: Beautiful, man.

Adnan Husain: We are in the camp of life. And this is a beautiful ritual, Gul Galtan, a picture from Simnan in Iran, where babies are bathed in fresh rose petals to mark the beginning of the first spring of their lives. We're coming to Nowruz rather soon, later this month, which is the Persian New Year. And I think at this time, this is the best contrast to say that the Epstein empire, as I think it was Dr. Izadi said in an excellent interview, that we're facing the Epstein class, Epstein empire that rapes little girls and then bombs little girls you know and instead we want to bathe little girls with their mothers their mothers bathe them in fresh rose petals to celebrate life and inshallah all of these people of iran and the beautiful iranian women that these Girls will grow up to be engineers and doctors and scientists, as so many of their older sisters and mothers have, and build a sovereign, independent nation of Iran that is a beacon to the global south. That's what we want to see. And so that's why we wanted to talk about how Iran has struck back against the Epstein empire. And it's great to have so many of you in the chat. There was like, between all of the streams that we had at some point over a thousand live. joining us for a wonderful conversation, a wonderful discussion in the chat. I appreciate you all so much. And it's been great to have this conversation. So thank you all. And peace with justice, if you can fight for it, as Benji likes to add, if you can fight for it from our pious forebears uh who inspire us said that i borrowed from jared ball i have to say who himself is quoting george jackson yeah it's quoting george jackson exactly you know uh another martyr you know in the cause of freedom so uh peace with justice and uh solidarity to you all free palestine and victory to the free people of the world i mean Bismillahirrahmanirrahim.